When it comes to grasping your audience's attention, especially when you're starting off in the beginning of a podcast or just intro, outro, whatever it may be, I find it to be a great idea to start with a question. Like when you start in and say, have you ever been to a store and absolutely forgot what you were there for? You get my point? It could be a little bit more catchy and more attention grabbing, but it starts off with a question and it's got them thinking and wanting to answer it. as they're listening and tuning on in, right? Or you can make a statement saying something like, this flag that we Pledge of Allegiance to, well, let me tell you what the allegiance means and why we didn't know this. See what I'm saying? I hope you do. And if you don't, try and she'll succeed, but you'll get it eventually. Just think. My outro is, what do you say to your audience?